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These bets are located in the center of the craps table. You choose one of these bets and hope they occur on the next roll. For example, if you choose Snake Eyes you're betting that two one's will be rolled on the very next roll. There are a number of proposition bets that change depending on what casino you’re playing in and in what country. Nov 19, 2020 - A variety of Craps Tables available from value priced home use to custom craps tables that are portable, for dice control practice or full 14' casino quality.
'The inside numbers (5,6,8,9) ratio only comes into play when the 7's ratios are normal or higher than normal. The higher the ratio
of 7's above 1/6 average, the better the opportunity for earning profits'.
I learned more about charting from the following article by Larry Edell.
http://edell.casinocitytimes.com/article/the-secrets-of-charting-the-tables-31931s
I was looking for feedback from anyone who has practical experience in applying this concept by tracking the rolls at a table?
It seems to me that a successful betting strategy could be exploited based on a quantitative expression of these ratios?
Thank you.
I talked to some and they were the dumbest pieces of plastic ever. They said nothing but must have thought they had rolled plenty of other numbers besides 7 after I talked to them. So they then rolled a bunch of 7s on me!
OK, that was sarcasm, but how do you think the author would respond? That the dice know?
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I first came across this theory when reading Zeke Feinberg's books. The basic concept he sums up in the following two sentences.
'The inside numbers (5,6,8,9) ratio only comes into play when the 7's ratios are normal or higher than normal. The higher the ratio
of 7's above 1/6 average, the better the opportunity for earning profits'.
http://edell.casinocitytimes.com/article/the-secrets-of-charting-the-tables-31931s
It seems to me that a successful betting strategy could be exploited based on a quantitative expression of these ratios?
Thank you.
Your link is broken.
Should be http://edell.casinocitytimes.com/article/the-secrets-of-charting-the-tables-31931
But utter bunkum! That whole site is full of crap(s)!
You can chart past results till the end of time, but past rolls (That's all you can chart) give no indication of future rolls (That's all you can bet on)
UNLESS you spend your winnings on a time travel machine. *
'...a successful betting strategy could be exploited based on an ability to bet yesterday, based on tomorrows analysis of yesterdays rolls'.
But then you wouldn't need to chart the results, just bet on the exact outcome that you've already observed tomorrow.
*Nice little paradox there. 'Buy time machine today, from yesterdays massive winnings: Make massive winnings yesterday by using time machine to travel there.'
Actually, I misspoke in my original post. I first learned about the discussion of charts (NOT the details of the charting concept) that Thomas Midgley wrote in 'Craps: A Smart Shooter's Guide'. Using actual rolls, the results appear in graphic form in Chapter 11. These must have been the basis of a later book: '7,500 Craps Rolls'. I'll have more to ask about this book in a later post, though perhaps I am already becoming redundant with gamblers fallacy.
Your link is broken.
Should be http://edell.casinocitytimes.com/article/the-secrets-of-charting-the-tables-31931
But utter bunkum! That whole site is full of crap(s)!
You can chart past results till the end of time, but past rolls (That's all you can chart) give no indication of future rolls (That's all you can bet on)
UNLESS you spend your winnings on a time travel machine. *
'...a successful betting strategy could be exploited based on an ability to bet yesterday, based on tomorrows analysis of yesterdays rolls'.
But then you wouldn't need to chart the results, just bet on the exact outcome that you've already observed tomorrow.
*Nice little paradox there. 'Buy time machine today, from yesterdays massive winnings: Make massive winnings yesterday by using time machine to travel there.'
Does he leave himself a note? Perhaps he needs to observe someone else shooting and tell them what to bet?
Thanks to Alan we now know the best time and location one should focus on. I'm not sure if a time traveler could sneak a bet in without messing up the string of 18 yo's or not, perhaps he could just make a deal with Alan prior. But wouldn't that affect the outcome?
But wouldn't something bad happen if he seen himself at the table?☺ I'm not sure what they call that perhaps a temporal time flux or something?
Does he leave himself a note? Perhaps he needs to observe someone else shooting and tell them what to bet?
Thanks to Alan we now know the best time and location one should focus on. I'm not sure if a time traveler could sneak a bet in without messing up the string of 18 yo's or not, perhaps he could just make a deal with Alan prior. But wouldn't that affect the outcome?
Your 100% correct in saying a successful betting strategy could be exploited if you pay attention
at the table.
Now mind you, the kids on this site will insult your imagination and willingness to
actually put any thought into your bets. They being the brightest stars in the gambling
industry, understand that, dice setting does not work, that every set of dice on a table
is exactly the same and if for what ever reason the table is producing for more 4 or 10s
than would be a normal random outcome, for heavens sakes don't bet them, you need
to bet the 6 & 8 because that is what the math of the game tells you.
There are many things you can do at the table to increase your ability to do better
than the average player.... but you sure as hell don't want to talk about that on
here.
Of course that is just my point of view.
dicesetter
P,S, the kids are also very short on courage, the never want to compare
what they can do with some one else, or what their shot produces when
compared to some one else, and they sure as hell would not want to compare
a 6 months record of their table results... they will discourage you from
putting any effort in your idea.
I'm assuming you are referring to people like Math Extremist, the Wizard, etc..? I'm guessing they prefer not to be addressed as 'kids'.
To the best of my knowledge the info in this article is up to date. However, you should always check with your cruise lines on their specific games and policies before making any final travel and play plans.
For years the on-board casino on most cruise lines has been a pig-in-a-poke. Unless you’ve cruised on a specific ship in the past you never really knew what you were getting until you boarded the ship. Here’s a listing of what you can expect from most of the major cruise lines you’ll find sailing from U.S. ports:
Carnival Cruise Lines is by far the largest cruise line, currently with 22 ships. Its casinos are among the largest on the high seas. In addition to blackjack, they offer roulette, craps, Caribbean stud poker, Caribbean draw poker, three-card poker and slots.
While most tables are $5 and $10 minimums, Carnival also offers blackjack tables with a $25 minimum. They are also is willing to make higher maximums available for players who obtain approval prior to sailing. Carnival’s blackjack rules calls for the dealer to stand on soft 17, which is consistent with casino rules in Las Vegas and more favorable to the player than the policy of requiring the dealer to hit soft 17 as is found on some other cruise lines.
Carnival’s craps tables feature double odds (most cruise lines offer only single odds) with a pass line minimum of $5 and maximum of $200. Again, the casino is willing to make higher maximums available for players who obtain approval prior to sailing.
Their Ocean Players Club offers something for every level of player from awards for playing slots to credit lines and higher betting limits for high rollers. Players can earn points towards complimentary beverages, free gifts, discounts off on-board services, future cruise benefits and even cash back rebates on future cruises.
All Carnival Cruise Lines’ vessels have a dedicated casino host to welcome you and answer your questions. All of the larger Carnival casinos host slot and blackjack tournaments as well as other events. For more information, visit the Ocean Players Club at http://www.oceanplayersclub.com.
Celebrity cruise lines four newest ships – Millennium, Summit, Constellation and Infinity – each boast a Fortunes Casino. These casinos each features 5 blackjack tables, 2 three card poker, 1 Caribbean stud poker and 1 Texas Hold ‘em table, 1 craps table, 2 roulette tables, and about 200 slots.
The Fortunes Casinos on three slightly smaller Celebrity ships — Mercury, Century and Galaxy — are almost the same, with one fewer poker table and a couple dozen fewer slots. The line’s smallest ship — the Zenith — has the same number of table games but only 143 slots.
Celebrity’s casinos have great ambiance, but the action tends to fade fast after midnight. Generally the casinos close by 2AM for lack of players.
Celebrity claims to offer a variety of comps for players who meet certain requirements. However, details on how their comp program works are somewhat murky at this point.
Crystal Cruises is a high-end luxury line with two ships considerably larger than those of most competitors. The line recently took over operation of its casinos from Caesars Palace of Las Vegas. Most of the casino dealers and managers are former Caesars employees who stayed on after the takeover.
Each of Crystal’s casinos offers blackjack, three-card poker, mini-baccarat, craps, roulette, and slot and video poker machines. Now, as was the case when Caesars ran the casinos, the Crystal Casinos offer all players complimentary cocktails.
Holland America Line’s newest ships — the Noordam, Westerdam, Oosterdam and Zuiderdam — have ultramodern casinos with blackjack tables, Caribbean stud poker, three-card power, Let It Ride, craps, roulette, and slots.
Members of their Ocean Players Club can be rated when playing table games in Holland America cruise ship casinos, and may be eligible for complimentary drinks, free on-board gifts and discounts off on-board services. High rollers may be eligible for discounts on future cruise bookings. However, at last report the Ocean Players Club slot system was not yet available in Holland America cruise ship casinos.
Norwegian Cruise Line’s Casinos at Sea offer baccarat, blackjack, craps, roulette, Caribbean stud poker, 3-card poker, Texas Hold ‘em, Pai Gow poker and tiles, Oasis poker, video poker, mystery jackpots, and 24-hour slot machines.
NCL was the first cruise line to offer a rewards program similar to those offered by most “land-based” casinos. Known as the Casinos at Sea Players Club, this program — currently operating on the Norwegian Dawn, Norwegian Star, Norwegian Sun, Norwegian Spirit and Norwegian Jewel and lets players earn “Sea Bucks” when playing either table games or slots.
For table games, Sea Bucks are earned based on amount of time played, the type of game, and the average bet. Sea Bucks are earned on slot machines based on coin in and type of machine.
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Once a member has reached a minimum of $25 in points, the Sea Bucks can be used as payment of on-board items like food and beverages or shore excursion packages. Sea Bucks can also be accumulated and used toward payment for a future cruise, however points expire on a rolling-basis 18 months after they have been earned.
Princess Cruises, a favorite with many upscale travelers, has virtually doubled its fleet in the past three years. Casinos aboard Princess ships offer all of the popular table games with Las Vegas style rules including craps, roulette, blackjack, Caribbean Stud, Let It Ride, and Three Card Poker. They also offer a variety of slots including video poker and novelty machines — many of which have progressive jackpots.
Members of the Ocean Players Club can be rated when playing table games in Princess cruise ship casinos, and earn points that can be used for discounts on future cruises or cash back rewards. However, the Ocean Players Club slot system is not yet available in Princess cruise ship casinos.
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Royal Caribbean’s newest ships, Liberty of the Seas and Freedom of the Seas, are the world’s largest cruise ships, and their Las Vegas-style casinos are among the largest on the seas as well. The line’s five Voyager class ships — Mariner of the Seas, Voyager of the Seas, Navigator of the Seas, Explorer of the Seas, and Adventure of the Seas — are only a bit smaller, and their casinos are among the most active afloat.
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Freedom and Liberty feature 19 gaming tables, and just over 300 slots. The Voyager class ships feature 16 gaming tables and just under 300 slots. But there is action to be found aboard all ships in the Royal Caribbean fleet, with a minimum of 8 gaming tables and at least 150 slots.
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Royal Caribbean now has Players Club, which offers qualifying players complimentary drinks in the casino, and based on play, invites some of its high rollers to expense-paid blackjack and slots tournaments.
According to Royal Caribbean, to qualify for cruise discounts a player is expected to spend a minimum of two hours a day at the table, betting a minimum of $50 per hand at blackjack, $50 per roll at craps, and $25 per hand or spin at Caribbean stud poker, Let It Ride, or roulette. Slot comps are based on play at $5 per spin.
Members of the Player’s Club are also able prior to their trip to arrange personal check-cashing privileges provided they have existing privileges at any U.S. land casino.
One question players often have about cruise ship casinos is “Who regulates them?” The short answer is that there is no independent governmental regulation such as is provided in Las Vegas by the Nevada Gaming Commission or by local gaming commissions in other jurisdictions.
The good news for players is that cruise ship casinos tend to be more likely to resolve disputes in the passenger’s favor than most land-based casinos. After all, they want happy cruisers who return to sail with them again and again. But in the absence of government regulators, the cruise ship casinos operate under a set of guidelines published in 1999 by an organization called the International Council of Cruise Lines (ICCL), whose members include most of the major cruise lines.
The ICCL guidelines address the equipment, conduct of games, internal controls, and customer service for casinos on cruise ships. In terms of facilities and equipment, the ICCL guidelines call for all equipment purchased and installed on cruise vessels to “meet the regulatory standards of the Nevada Gaming Control Board or other licensed jurisdiction for payback and internal software.”
Regarding rules of play, ICCL guidelines require that the rules “generally follow those established for casinos in Nevada, New Jersey, or England.” Admittedly there are some casinos in Nevada and New Jersey with some pretty bad rules for players. Nevertheless, I think the games are fair if you understand the rules in advanced. And in many cases the games will be better than you’ll find in the local casinos in most of the ports cruise ships visit.